Food Production and Population Growth
Hey all,
So I just finished watching DQ's video series on food production and population growth again. I've owned it since it first came out. I'm still impressed by it. To me, it seems that what he had to say back in 1998 is even more important today.
I follow the programs on my local public radio stations and tune in when there is a topic that I feel is important to me. Since I first started tuning in to public radio (about ten years now), and when it comes to programs concerning human population growth, I've only heard one guest agree with what DQ had to say on those video tapes. Although he did admit that it would be a hard sell to the general public.
Now I know cultural change is slow. But, to me, what DQ and Dr. Alan Thornhill had to say makes perfect sense. So my question is why isn't there more people out there sharing the same perspective as that offered in the video tapes? And why isn't there more of an effort to raise awareness about this perspective? Afterall it does say on the cover of the tapes, "Why the greatest crisis in human history is being faced in OUR generation."
Just to be clear, this post is not an attempt to get you to join my effort. I'm genuinely curious as to why more people aren't talking about this. Or maybe there is and I just don't know it.
Thank you,
Curt
Transformation, Gifts and Tools
Submitted by Huby7 on Fri, 2009-03-20 12:39.
Hi Filip,
Thank you for sharing your insights.
If I'm hearing you correctly, I agree that sometimes changes are needed at a deeper personal level to understand were not the apex of evolution.
You wrote: "Questions I would pose to you are, how can over-population and food production be approached and worked on pragmatically? What can we do on a day to day basis?"
Me: There are many options. But I think it's important for each of us to understand the gifts that have been given to us by the universe, than use those gifts along with the tools we have available to us to stop the over production of food.
Take care,
Curt
Our Secret Plan and Pragmatism
Submitted by Huby7 on Mon, 2009-03-30 14:08.
Hi Littlespider,
You wrote: "Questions I would pose to you are, how can over-population and food production be approached and worked on pragmatically? What can we do on a day to day basis?"
I have been thinking more about your questions. One of the motivating factors in why I call into Wisconsin Public Radio when there is a show of interest is to ask the guest or guests questions or make comments from B's perspective. It's my hope that asking those questions from that perspective will help bring to light our Secret Plan. Of course over-population and food production are symptoms of our Secret Plan.
Take care,
Curt
Funny you mention
Submitted by Tony on Sun, 2009-03-22 01:35.
Funny you mention earthworms. Did you know they didn't reside in North America at all until Europeans brought them here? Anyway carry on....
Earthworm misinformaton
Submitted by Little spider on Sun, 2009-03-22 18:06.
Actually, Tony. Your information is incorrect. This is one of those urban-legend like biological stories that everyone seems to know about... earthworms not being native to North America. But, its actually wrong.
First of all, there are many different species of earthworms in North America. Depending on where you live in North America, the earthworms in your yard or your woods may or may not be natives, or might be a combination of both.
Read here:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1916/whats-the-story-on-north-american-earthworms
According to some sources, about 33% of the species of earthworms in the USA and Canada are not native.
Little Spider
actually, did you know
Submitted by Tony on Thu, 2009-03-26 01:22.
actually, did you know people who start sentences with 'actually' are annoying ?
I appreciate the google. Someone should write National Geographic and tell them to use the google too.
asdf
Submitted by Wheres Raven on Sun, 2009-03-22 21:03.
Ya. that's a good question
We can only really know why WE don't talk about it. So the question comes back to us.
I have those dvds too. Probably watched them 15 times in the last 5 years. I don't really have a direct reason why I don't talk about it. It's a great video! but beyond that it's not really a concern for me much anymore.
When Quinn says, "I don't make the wind blow, and I don't make people starve to death"...
I'm not saying that this statement is good or bad.... just implying.
to some...
He is representing a way that could end in disaster/holocost.
To others he is just saying how 'it is'.
I don't like to call it a paradigm shift myself, but I see what littlespider is saying.
Really it depends on the individual, that I am talking to. Whether THEY tell me (in their way) that they want to hear about it.
Rarely does it come up, in everyday life.
We can do something about it, without talking about it, though.
Such as walking allover town sprinkling vegetable seeds everywhere, with some friends (or alone), in every spare patch of dirt.
Then simply pick them and eat them whenever.... showing people something new.
no co-ops, no handouts, no government help.... nothing to stamp a name to it. Phantoms who feed.
Changing relationship with food, without needing it explained first.
Brother earthworm...
Curt,
Great topic. I have found that the difficulty in discussing this topc with others is that inorder to really face up to the over-population and food-production you need a paradigm shift.
You have to drop the assumption that you as a human being are special, and exempt from the laws of nature. Not many people are willing to truly embrace that they are no more or less important than an earthworm in their garden, or a single mouse living in their barn.
Such a leap is rather tremendous in our culture.
I have met a fair number of people who will accept this idea as an pleasing intellectual concept. A nice metaphor, perhaps. But, out of those only a handful truly understand inside themselves what that means...
That seems to be at the crux of the problem.
This aside...
Questions I would pose to you are, how can over-population and food production be approached and worked on pragmatically? What can we do on a day to day basis?
Little Spider